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Commercial Vehicle Expert Group Meeting Minutes and Notes
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Meeting Minutes
2026-04-07
Whitepaper review, will share draft at AMM, encourage input from participants and their colleagues including whether anyone can sign on. Will work with COVESA marketing to publish post AMM
Incident reports
Graph schemas started for generic and theft, do not have good viewer/editor to provide better tour/overview - Ted needs to get IT Security approval to install
Encouraging thinking on additional types of incidents besides unsafe driving, theft and accident. AV scoring in general, near accident and override. Evasive manuever. Breakdown (locked out, flat tire, overheat, engine failure, etc).
**We have not anything scoring location (city vs rural), time, road and traffic conditions etc - some in our Sensoris based work. GPS + timestamp can answer some offline/backend system lookup. Privacy considerations (clear consent) - AOSP could be the HMI for consent (reporting immutable or collect, can introduce Richard to AiDEN)
Ted needs to get Paul to put Sensoris topic on TST agenda - agreed but keeps being deferred
Will want to generate some mock incident data and use GraphQL server in COVESA Playground - Ted to talk to Stephen
2026-03-31
From VDM call: Provide information of the stating point: - List are the Entities of interest for the domain (e.g., CrashEvent) - List the properties assotiatied to that entities (e.g., CrashEvent.location) - List of competency questions: what do I want to be able to answer directly from my data? - Existing references: Are there standard vocabularies, taxonomies, data models?
Start with a generic incident event, apply to AV as well (eg remote takeover, human override)
Need to come up with concise crash reporting guidelines
Input from VDM on sampling conventions
Connected Safety data points of interest
Subset from our insurance spreadsheet
different categories, ways to rate severity (accelerometer, speed, rate of deceleration, number of passengers and airbags deployed)
OEM algorithm (some have stopped due to poor results) and raw data points - both approaches
specific elements per incident type
Generic and not AV specific for now - follow up
Accident report Stefan provided previously
Data Guidelines for theft reporting
2026-03-24
AOSP session at AMM, looking for guidance on insurance use cases - Stefan asked who from this call will be present and can attend. We should strengthen our collaboration with them, not just in person at AMM but more delegates to their recurring call
VDM - services/APIs and access to data
another opportunity for insurance use case as well as potential for additional data modeling
FMS call prep for tomorrow - VISS, give heads up on JasPAR work
Continue review of whitepaper, proposed changes made and awaiting further input (stats and IPR concerns) requested of participants.
Next steps
announce draft at AMM and ahead of time more widely to COVESA members, ask OEM for input on section 5
request signatures from orgs
review with COVESA marketing team and publish
promote including sending to German Insurance Alliance and elsewhere UNECE
Pending is use of “standards”, posed it to generative AI:
❯ COVESA is not a formal standards body, it produces specifications and reluctant to define what it produces as standards. similar the world wide web consortium
(W3C) has the same hesitation and refers what it produces as technical reports and recommendations. we are debating whether to stick with "standards" for this
paper or perhaps use some other term. we want something stronger than specification or simply normalization of data. what do you recommend?
● Good question — this is a real tension in the standards-adjacent world. Here are a few options worth considering, in order of what I'd recommend:
"Open specifications" — This is probably the safest upgrade. It signals that the work is open, community-developed, and normative in intent without claiming
formal standards body authority. OASIS and similar organizations use this comfortably."Normative specifications" — "Normative" is a term of art that means "establishing a norm" without claiming to be a standard. It carries real weight in
regulatory and technical circles and signals that these are meant to be followed, not just informational. The GTR itself uses "normative" for its binding annexes."Consensus specifications" — Emphasizes that these emerged from multi-stakeholder agreement (OEMs, insurers, fleet operators), which is what gives them
authority. This is the language IETF sometimes uses for its work."De facto standards" — This is arguably what VSS is becoming given Android Automotive VHAL adoption, but it's a claim that might be premature and could irritate
people in formal standards bodies.
My recommendation would be "open specifications" as the primary term, with the paper occasionally using "common data definitions" or "open data vocabulary" where it
reads more naturally. "Open specifications" threads the needle — it's stronger than just "specifications" because "open" implies broad consensus and accessibility,
but it doesn't overreach into "standards" territory that would make COVESA or W3C uncomfortable.
The paper could also frame it as: COVESA produces open specifications that support regulatory standards and enable interoperability — positioning the work as
essential infrastructure without claiming the formal designation.
2026-03-17
Insurance AV data whitepaper
remove MOTER, VHAL? (and/or VISS)
intent to follow UNECE and other regulatory bodies
change turtle to limp or more PC
check EN_UK
add: need for harmonized data and continuous, remote access to assess AV performance/risk
Need for simpler accident report, ability to assess liability/blame
Reconsider “standard” - check thesaurus
On-board API argument
Check all acros are defined but link to resources/explanations
ODD? Operational Designed Domain - vehicle cannot operate in snow
Remove company names but allow/encourage “signing” if companies allow
make clear Commercial and Fleet Vehicle Expert Group paper
importance of researchers
Stats like 95% of accident caused by human error - stats in general will strengthen argument
2026-03-10
Reports to publish
AV / Insurance
Data sampling importance to support use cases/different industry vertical needs
Specification view of guidelines (fleet, insurance, other - road safety, accident/incident report, vehicle theft, etc)
AMM CV track (revised)
CV & CVIS update (20)
Demo on ACEA FMS (10-15, talk to Mike about “COVESA Hub” table at the showcase)
FMS based panel (45-50)
Working session and participant engagement (fallback if leftover time)
2026-03-03
AMM - agenda public, 1 1/2h on Wednesday afternoon starting at 2:05 to 3:30 for CV
CV update - revised based on current work and maybe delve into a sub topic (AV signal access?) (Ted &?)
FMS at 2:35 - 3 (Armin, Abdel, Ted, Mouham, Achim)
Bosch demo? (how long and who)
Joint working session (open to discussion
Enum, API and data sampling metadata
Other?
German insurance association - intro and outreach
AV draft report on need for regulations mandating signal access
Coordinate with new Cybersecurity group as they are looking at UNECE, SAE and other regulations and standards
2026-02-24
Introductions
Endava Fleet proposal
Receiving requests for whitelabel fleet management solutions, running PoCs for agentic fleet management. Specific data needs represented/normalized across manufacturers. Variations are causing AI hallucinations. We submitted a proposal for COVESA AMM in April. Want to validate use cases.
Not very different from Fleet Management Data Guidelines interested in additional perspective
Ulf’s Cloud Based Tree Idea for insurance domain
Leverage CVIS/HIM for multiple trees for trailer etc and to do similar for an insurance tree, without duplicating signals defined in VSS
Insurance company
General coverage and usage based (parameters regarding duration, supplimental or primary)
Policy information
Policy holder
Consent to capture data
**Data guidelines (from CV group) that the vehicle supports
**FNOL interface (web address) and supported incident report types
**Theft reporting interface and report type - both to insurance, authorities and recovery companies
Nearby discussions with California DMV on their W3C Verifiable Credentials based data models for vehicle registration, title, driver’s license (existing) and proposed (proof of insurance, inspection…). What should go into an insurance tree? FNOL interface, agreed incident reporting format (based on VSS)
Nearby AOSP App Framework and Connected Safety groups
Insurance guidelines, similar to FMD
Insurance signals for AV - largely completed review from spreadsheet, leverage AI to draft a whitepaper for circulation and potential input to UNECE
2026-02-10 / 17 - Insurance signals for AV
2026-02-03
Autonomous driving data points (fundamental, not ADAS)
Blackbox (rolling 10 second window under law for conventional vehicles, may be more required for AV - even 6 months?), needs to be operational for AV to be enabled. It would be preferred to be able to collect this data on a continuous basis, not just after an accident.
Access of data:
Current regulations prohibit remote data access.
EU Data Act
EU AI Act? potentially unrelated, liability portion scraped for now
Insurance coverage - reluctance to insure AV without data access
Data can be used to exonnerate or assign [partial or full] liability. Also considered IP
Tesla offers self insurance as well
Consent clearly required in many regions
Specific data
Include vehicle’s perspective of surroundings (eg Sensoris, camera, sensor and on-board AI based object detection ) eg lane detection, obstacles, other vehicles and tragectories
data driven AV decisions - why did the vehicle brake, swerve etc? OEM unlikely to share
Proprietary, protected IP. Algorithm that makes decision will not be shared, specific data points that contribute to decision will also be reluctant
collect, evaluate on-board and send off for feedback loop, learning
Generalized set of signals to provide portrait of surroundings (Ted to ask Sensoris if they know uptake across industry, regardless of supplier - other than HERE) and vehicle behavior - not necessarily what vehicle AI used
started in spreadsheet, please contribute there
example: car overtaking (passing) another vehicle and clearly decides not to, brakes
miles driven, evasion manuevers made, safety critical incident (emergency braking), minimum risk manuevers, enters safe mode
https://unece.org/sites/default/files/2023-12/R157e.pdf
https://unece.org/sites/default/files/2025-06/GRVA-22-23e.pdf
Predictive Maintenance Guidelines
2026-01-27
Introductions
Fleet based routing using RFMS
updates: Karmak, CA DMV, pinged Chaitanya (Ford) on sampling conventions - will time out and go with ours otherwise
Predictive Maintenance Guidelines: sensor data eg voltage or oil temp to collect to make available to vehicle owner (individual, fleet) or their mechanic. Interested orgs (Karmak, Cox, Geotab)
Other candidates interested in predictive maintenance - obvious interest to insurance as is inspection
Outreach: Samsara (Paul intro), Allison (Priyaa - interest in diagnostics)
Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC): (no longer available in VSS since deprecating OBDII branch) and PIDs
Not harmonized at present across OEM, meaning behind a light on dash or OEM specific diagnostics code are not necessarily consistent
OEM consider diagnostics codes, tools, logic their IP (license)
OEM specific knowledge for their data points useful for properly assessing (some have reverse engineered - understand based on historic data indicators of problems before they occur)
Aging, adverse conditions or driving behavior contributing (coaching and/or reduce warranty coverage if not corrected) to component failure
2026-01-20
2026 plans
Draft blog article
ACEA FMS collaboration
More coordination with Connected Safety, VDM?, AOSP App Framework (insurance use cases)
Package up data guidelines (fleet, insurance) and supportive, promoting materials
Explainer
Light wrapper on YAML based guidelines, produce specification
Seeking collection metadata from Ford
Outline of additional data collection guidelines
ADAS insurance guidelines and autonomous
Topic to TST - how far to go with Sensoris (more external/environmental variables) ADAS data points (paused in the meantime)
Vehicle theft reporting - have basics but not written in VSS YAML with collection convention metadata. Meed to engage various companies like LoJack (Ted can get intros) for short term engagement on guideline definition.
Basic accident report (airbags deployed, rollover, seatbelt, # of passengers, severity rating, etc) - in collaboration with Connected Safety BoF, leveraging their emergency services report format and see if there is an insurance industry equivalent
Unlikely to get full accident reconstruction data - the “blackbox” in many makes/models usually only accessible by law enforcement or under subpoena. Could define in CV group basic report - guidelines of data to collect and keep in buffer, send if possible to insurance backend
Inspection (w/ CA DMV) cf TÜV in Germany, Dekra - annual or bi-annual inspection follow government specified requirements, varies by country in EU, same in US. We would seek to establish a baseline that can be extended for regional differences.
May be some gaps - notably tire tread (Michelin)
Static information (vehicle registration, proof of insurance - Link to FNOL portal and agreed VSS backed reporting. current example statement)
Current driver
Outreach (conferences, associations, etc)
Geotab Connect event - panel on standards and research (February)
ATA TMC - speaking slot to present ACEA FMS work, Commerical Vehicle activity and COVESA more broadly (March)
COVESA AMM in Porto, Portugal - call for participation, send presentation proposals (April 22, 23)
Insurance focused?
Insurtech Insights Europe | Europe's Largest Insurtech Conference
Engage new members with commercial vehicle focus
Cox, Cummins, Karmak (dealer management systems, diagnostics), Samsara, Volvo Group (CVIS, and ACEA FMS, trying to get into VDM) same with Scania, Sonatus?, Allison transmissions
Diagnostic Codes at TST - ASAM SOVD (passenger car), UDS, we deprecated OBDII branch including diagnoistics CAN messages
Ted to work with Paul on timing for TST agenda and encourage stakeholders (Cummins, Allison, Karmak, Bosch, BMW, Volvo Group, Cox**…) **has VSS extension for diagnostics
Potential GraphQL based project of fleet (may be able to do basic insurance guidelines as well) data
2025-12-02
Materials for release:
Driving Progress in Commercial Vehicle Connectivity blog.docx
Packaged fleet and insurance data guidelines, with explainer that reads more like a specification not just yaml
updated business case: OEM focus but include data consumers needs (which increases demand for OEM data) combining earlier, Stefan’s AOSP spreadsheet, study and press release from Allianz and involve our communications colleagues (Florian at Allianz, Kim at Geotab and Tina at COVESA)
Ted to start a draft: feed materials into GPT, review and share for input
Timeline: want to advance materials by EOY and discuss timing. Want data collection metadata conventions from Ford, pinged
Updates:
California interested in discussing emissions/inspection
Hazardous materials and trailer signal extensions being discussed in CVIS
ACEA FMS advancing
Pinged Chaitanya from Ford on data collection metadata so we can publish our fleet/insurance guidelines using them
Stefan shares use/business cases for OEM supporting insurance that has come out of AOSP discussion - shared screen of spreadsheet and AOSP group wiki and
Allianz Motor Day | 2025: Autonomous Safety & Insurance
2025-11-25
MDS debrief, plan going forward
Getting the word out on our efforts, other trade associations
Emissions and inspection - early possibility, exploring
Connected Safety reaction
Link to CS BoF’s minimal data set, compare to EU and VEDS: Location, fire, seatbelt, color, make/model, rollover…
Vehicle Theft - need to establish dialog companies like LoJack
FNOL - some data points already in our insurance signals list
In EU - since 2018 all OEM need to provide specific set of data
Vehicle Emergency Data Set in US
Commercial Vehicle cargo - hazardous materials
Holiday schedule
Off 16, 23 and 30 December resume on 6 January 2026
2025-11-18
Announcements / updates
Mobility Data Space (MDS) interested in talking about collaboration with COVESA
COVESA Connected Safety BoF collaboration
Introductions
Brief overview of activities
Journey Map
Emergency Reporting Systems
define data collection campaign, map to existing reporting formats
insurance notification, less urgent than first responders but early FNOL important in overall response to victims
different privacy/consent considerations
Vehicle theft reporting - has correlation to vehicle accidents
Other areas of potential mutual interest
CA DMV - collaboration not definitive and not public
EU Decentralized Identification (DID), a proprietary service based onISO 18013-5 MDL may prevail
Driver health information to have as part of driver record, important to share to first responders
Next steps, assignments, resources and communication channels
Vehicle Emergency Data Set (VEDS) - common model to align with/map to VSS
Similar but different in EU
Extrication guides - Vehicle architecture - first responders want to know where not to put “jaws of life” - risk of triggering undeployed airbags while trying to extract injured parties, same with EV circuit breakers, fire retardant application
2025-11-11 Cancelled
2025-10-28
AMM debrief
Interest in aligning with Road Safety group on producing VSS based signals report for emergency (accident) reporting and vehicle theft reporting along with tracking aspects if available.
some OEMs already collect that in a proprietary way
airbags deployed, number of occupants, severity of the crash (accelerometer), etc - ask Melanie for input
Ted to try to setup meeting with this group and include Bosch per Stefan’s suggestion
Richard NHTSA trying to standardize a crash severity report, see also eSafety (eCall) - ITS Standards
Stefan similar effort in EU from Emergency Number Association (EENA)
Interest in moving CCC/COVESA Digital Key signals forward, potentially going to be slow based on CCC process (Ecosystem WG, Use Cases WG then to their board?)
Fleet and insurance use cases to support
2026 AMM - Porto, Portugal in April and Tokyo, Japan in October
Volvo Group North America interested in work with ACEA, Cox Automotive
In-vehicle payments moving forward - UBI
RTI presented may propose DDS for serializing and off-boarding VSS
Microsoft will be proposing an activity for vehicle edge AI based on VSS
California DMV meeting with COVESA this week to discuss bringing their vehicle registration and driver’s license data models here for standardization - of interest to Vehicle Data Modelling activity as it is seeking additional domains beyond VSS
EU effort to normalize this as well to align with
Use Cases and Datasets
Data Architecture Group wants to work on Use Cases for the playground - show how VSS can be used. Welcome collaboration and involvement instead of just taking your use cases, get more implementation details, privacy concerns (or leave aside for experimentation). Also would want some useful datasets.
Start a wiki planning page to contribute to
Willingness from the group to support, go over use cases in detail, give preferences on which to prioritize or useful to demo - human facing
Can keep it simple, leave to vehicle edge AI until later
Datasets - PIVOT Project - Colorado State University CAN Logger project going into “production”, generated (Bosch from Kai’s Fleet Management Data Guidelines demo - Berlin 2025 AMM, Eclipse SDV Blueprint) or provided (Geotab shared some with Bosch for benchmarking)
No longer staring at a blank page for our explainer/specification for data collection guidelines but not ready to share
Input requested on COVESA draft blog on CV
Encourage review of Motion Management pull request
2025-10-14
Input on anti-theft data campaign
AMM prep
Paul: we need to make clearer what the group deliverables are
Deliverables for CV group
ACEA FMS (signals in VSS) and onboard API (VISS) - expect by EOY
Take the YAML overlays for fleet and insurance derived from spreadsheets and produce a human readable specification with links to YAML and JSON-Schema (insurance basic and fleet basic) similar to VISS spec
Privacy - yet make clear consent management should be followed and link to data exchange project wiki and mention eg IETF GNAP & EU Data and nearby acts
2025-10-07
AMM spots open for commercial and fleet
Getting review and input on data points of interest for vehicle theft reporting and recovery
Reached out to Chitanya as I started going through Ford’s data collection and transmission conventions from their proposed VSS extensions (moved for VDM but not advanced)
Sketching out our guidelines specification sections, quick review
Insurance use cases?
Thoughts on outreach?
2025-09-23
Updates
Volvo Group joined, Enterprise applied, Cummins moving forward, Samsara and others lingering
MDS EU Data Act workshop
VDM onboarding meeting - this Thursday at 6/9/3pm on community calendar
COVESA marketing team - assist with messaging plan to update landing page, blog press release and social media promotion
met with them last week, provided TST CV Overview and Update slides, OEM Business Case for FMD and CV landing page
Need to have a significant release of deliverables, more realistically post AMM
Still looking for assistance in promoting more widely - input on materials from your marketing teams, conferences or orgs - start list and outreach owners
CCC
MDS
Eclipse SDV - via Bosch on their Fleet Blueprint project
ATA
Commercial and Fleet Vehicles deliverables
ACEA FMS in VSS
Insurance and fleet data campaigns in YAML, JSON (Schema) and specification format
conventions for prescriptive on how it should be collected and descriptive for collected data
specification components: explainer of terminology, how YAML or JSON could be used for configuration or code generation, conventions, concrete examples if not all data points - inclined to do all and have a cross referenced use cases section
ReSpec example VISS3 - TOC, anchors, editors (Tom Sawyer analogy), status of doc, copyright/licensing, explainer with links to external references, normalized references etc
Terminology
“campaign” - metadata describing how data should be collected, have variant for how data was collected
“commercial vehicle” - poor choice in retrospect
review use cases terms, sampling conventions, event triggers, Hz
2025-09-16
Insurance use cases - noticed activity on the sheets, review, discuss and accept
Need better workflow - now have four versions of our spreadsheet - agreement to use Google Sheets V3
Ted updated the first one in V3 "official version" as an example. I identified two use cases and put my initials in parenthesis (TG). Numbering to be confirmed later. Welcome wording improvements or alternative suggestions for us to review and agree
2025-09-09
Data points for car theft reporting https://docs.google.com/document/d/17ON447TCqevrx73_oYfM9xJXgeBz-zASY-3qzVag3qg/edit?tab=t.0
Messaging and outreach - continued conversation with Toyota Connect EU - more B2B pressure would help
Insurance use cases review
ADAS https://github.com/COVESA/commercial-vehicles/tree/main/tmp/scratch
Review Video in VSS https://github.com/COVESA/vehicle_signal_specification/issues/816
2025-09-02
Car Connectivity Consortium (CCC) Digital Key (DK) Ecosystem Working Group meeting last week to discuss potential alignment with COVESA, principally to get DK data points into VSS which are of interest to commercial fleets and insurance.
COVESA Technical Steering Team (TST) call last week, presented an update of this activity.
The principal need we have is increasing awareness, specifically promotion with wider insurance and telematics companies.
COVESA's marketing has already reached out to schedule a meeting. If anyone is interested in participating in our messaging and promotion with them directly, please let me know. We will also discuss on our regular call your ideas for how we get this to appropriate audiences.
Some hesitation on trying to cover so many ADAS signals in VSS on TST call, need to bring our Sensors work to TST for further discussion before making PR and discuss in VSS call
ACEA FMS progress
Gomplate template to generate FMS in VSSAll Member Meeting
clean up and package our existing data collection definitions (campaigns). For insurance I want to focus on our basic campaign
